will the dual colour have separate control wires for each colour like the cannon or will it be all in the flash patterns
OVERKILL said:will the dual colour have separate control wires for each colour like the cannon or will it be all in the flash patterns
OVERKILL said:I have white/amber cannons white is drl mode 1 and mode 2 is white alt amber for warning I want to do the same thing with the Apollo when the exterior version is available
badge22 said:Right, most dual color LED lights have additional LEDs because there is a patent on the technology from Axixtech, who produces dual color LED products not just two or three color products which this amounts to.
This is two color technology, not dual or color changing. It confuses customers. And yes, I talking about the people that purchase these products and don't get on this board. I can see the reduced output being a sales issue even though it is probably trivial. Your talking 3 LEDs vs 6 LEDs.
SirenWorld.com said:We just received our 2x today and we're in the process of running it through bench testing. I have to say I'm very impressed with the optics. Straight on the brightness of each light head is the same as the T6 but at off angles there is no comparison!
The unit is solidly built too, and the light heads are solid and heavy. So far, very impressed.
Some pics we took and we'll have video coming soon.
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FEVER said:In the interest of honesty, I really hope you have QUALITY video and pictures of said brightness. I'm particularly interested in your claim of brightness head-on comparison to that of the T-6. I will agree it is stronger off axis than a T-6 and I will agree it is a well made light.
SirenWorld.com said:The videos I'm shooting so far aren't doing it justice. Each module for the Apollo is as bright as the one T6. The problem is, it blinds the camera. You can tell the off axis stuff, but it's still blinding. I'm still working on getting better lighting to make it not blind the camera. I'm really impressed though. The optics are awesome.
FEVER said:Don't get me wrong, I love these lights, but I will not be telling my customers what you are. We obviously have different opinions about the straight on output of the Apollo. As with typical TIR vs. Linear type of light heads, I will say that I think that the off axis is amazing in the Apollo. While straight on output might be better than most, it is of my opinion that the straight on output does not match that of the T-6. I still think Feniex has a winner on their hands with the t-6 and I have already pre-sold many.
SirenWorld.com said:I think the best test will be in the sunlight tomorrow (if the weather cooperates)... they're just too bright to stare at without welding goggles on. In theory the forward output should be the same for the modules since they each have 6 4-W LED... but my eyes are seeing spots and I'm getting a headache.
I know exactly what you mean with the TIR vs LIN optics though, and I was just saying what my first impressions are. I LOVE the Cobra series, and I think the Apollo line will only boost the Feniex brand into being a bigger contender, especially when they have full bars and sticks, and the eventual 4x3 3x7 and 7x9 heads for fire/ems use.
This is probably the best picture I could get that shows the difference in the two optics. Apollo on the left, Cobra on the right.
SirenWorld.com said:I think the best test will be in the sunlight tomorrow (if the weather cooperates)... they're just too bright to stare at without welding goggles on. In theory the forward output should be the same for the modules since they each have 6 4-W LED... but my eyes are seeing spots and I'm getting a headache.
I know exactly what you mean with the TIR vs LIN optics though, and I was just saying what my first impressions are. I LOVE the Cobra series, and I think the Apollo line will only boost the Feniex brand into being a bigger contender, especially when they have full bars and sticks, and the eventual 4x3 3x7 and 7x9 heads for fire/ems use.
This is probably the best picture I could get that shows the difference in the two optics. Apollo on the left, Cobra on the right.
EMT-BLS said:When you do a comparison photo, you really need to match up the modules. You can't really just throw any set of lights together and get an accurate representation of the lights' output difference. Why not cover the white module on the Apollo, and use a solid blue T6 vs. the blue Apollo module? That would show exactly how much better one is over the other.
FEVER said:Dual color is only 3 leds of each color per module and single color will have 6 leds of each color. Pretty much the same way all dual color lights are made. What feniex has done is squeezed two leds into each optic for the purposes of dual color. After receiving feedback, they smartly did not remove leds for single color and instead kept them in for those customers. :thumbsup:
FollowingNFront said:I want a blue (1st module)/white (2nd module) 2 head Apollo! It looks great
FEVER said:They truly are something different. I have it sitting on top of a python 4x in my dash and straight on it gets lost in the blinding light of the 4x, however off axis is significant!
Get yours ordered with one of the many dealers on here!
FollowingNFront said:Thank you sir.... Will do. Are they shipping yet?
No they are not shipping yet
I am new to learning about proper optics and such, but I believe this light will have much more frontal warning than the individual off-brand green/white's I have in my windshield right now....
What light are you using now? This light will not have significant "throw" (punch/distance) straight forward, however the off axis warning capabilities is tremendous.
Can I ask you a request? Can you post a pic of the Apollo 2X in your windshield so I can get an idea of the size of it and how it would look mounted?
I will get a picture of it shortly.
And one more quick question.... Swapping light heads on these things is fairly simple right?
Yes, the dash lights appear to be fairly easily interchanged.
FEVER said:If you have any other questions, fire away
FollowingNFront said:Thanks for the quick responses! I currently have two of these up front (one white/one green): Mini LED Light Bars : Emergency Vehicle Lighting : LED Dash Lights : Strobe Warning Lights : Used Truck Light Bars : Amber Emergency Light : LED Outfitters - Dash Lights :: Mini Traffic Enforcer 5-M
Do you think the Apollo will have better frontal intensity than that?
FEVER said:WITHOUT A DOUBT....
you are welcome for the responses. I'm just sitting here boxing up orders and waiting for the rain to stop so I can go out and take pictures of my patrol car for you.
FollowingNFront said:Thank you sir.... Will do. Are they shipping yet? I am new to learning about proper optics and such, but I believe this light will have much more frontal warning than the individual off-brand green/white's I have in my windshield right now....
Can I ask you a request? Can you post a pic of the Apollo 2X in your windshield so I can get an idea of the size of it and how it would look mounted?
And one more quick question.... Swapping light heads on these things is fairly simple right?
SirenWorld.com said:Two screws hold the light heads to the frame. The lights themselves just have 4 wire disconnects on the back so they're really easy to swap around.
Rebellion said:FEVER, so comparing the 2x apollo series to a 2x cobra series.
The cobra series is still superior in terms of "punch through" correct?
I have a Cobra 2X and was eye balling an upgrade to the Apollo series lights.
All I care about is being seen coming from behind... (Courtesy state)
The Apollo series is the way to go for off axis coverage.FollowingNFront said:In NYC I need coverage in all the directions I can get it lol...
FollowingNFront said:To me, ^ That is not the best example of the Apollo 2X's brightness because both light heads are dual colors (red/white) so the way I understand it, each color is putting out about half the maximum wattage is that right? If I'm wrong I apologize.
Cool. Glad I understand the concept a little bit more.FEVER said:you are correct.
FollowingNFront said:Cool. Glad I understand the concept a little bit more.
I think this vid is better:
FEVER said:I guess we know who is behind Outlet PSE lol