All good things must come to an end. Ashes to ashes dust to jdi...Why ya gotta be killing the site man?!?! LoL
All good things must come to an end. Ashes to ashes dust to jdi...Why ya gotta be killing the site man?!?! LoL
Well then lol can't be at thatapparently according to a NOOB im the reason why ELB is dying..
One month later and this issue has yet to be resolved. Sad.Oops! We ran into some problems.
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Yup. It will unfortunately stay this way until Jman decides to come back, if he does. https://elightbars.org/forums/threads/intermittent-site-not-available.91875/post-674475One month later and this issue has yet to be resolved. Sad.
I've been a member here for 11-years. Nothing against ELB or the staff here, but I set up a new forum.
Hey thanks, I appreciate that!I'll be a member, but I sincerely hope elb gets fixed. Yes there are lost photos or files, but the amount of content that is here on historical pieces is second to none.
Where you on here when that debacle started..
John isn't involved with the site anymore..Nice post Jennifer, I am in agreement. This site has made this hobby easier and more enjoyable. I hope Jman, and John Marcson are doing well.
Was never about if he DECIDES to come back. Its about when he could. I won't divulge things, but for those who think this is something that is voluntary after everything he's sacrificed for the site over the years, you're f'n dumber than our politicians.Yup. It will unfortunately stay this way until Jman decides to come back, if he does. https://elightbars.org/forums/threads/intermittent-site-not-available.91875/post-674475
This whole thing can be traced back to the single problem of never having enough support to properly run this site. I know for a fact he's run this site at the tune of it costing him significantly out of his own pocket. FEVER's periodically offered to help with some of those cost for him since many here have taken more from here than they've actually given. Unfortunately with the way things are going we are not in a position to help. The administrators here do a hell of a job, but didn't have the technical capabilities of being able to handle things.Someone needs to try and take over the forum from jman does anyone have his offline contact details maybe go to his door to see about it? Its a shame to let this community fall apart if you can't contact him find some way to clone it to another domain and set of servers im sure it can be done
Please keep everyone posted if a new forum starts up.If it was possible for this to be taken over and fixed, Dave and I would have. ...
Was never about if he DECIDES to come back. Its about when he could. I won't divulge things, but for those who think this is something that is voluntary after everything he's sacrificed for the site over the years, you're f'n dumber than our politicians.
You are probably grossly exaggerating the traffic the site has gotten since the defection to social media sites. Message boards in general are not doing as well as they once have. A niche site like this one really doesn't get much traffic. Additionally, this site hasn't been inundated by ads as other forums. Every time that's been implemented members here complain about it.As someone who's owned a site for over 20 years, I know that this site should earn enough from Google adsense to pay for itself. And for anyone that's curious, Jman isn't allowed to share those numbers. It's a Google policy violation. So don't think he's hiding anything.
A good host will offer a free SSL Security Certificate.
Forum software is a one time fee.
I have no formal education when it comes to computer programming. I'm self taught. The servers Plesk panel doesn't require any special education, and a good host will change settings for you, or tell you where to make the changes.
I literally had my forum at code3garage.com setup and ready to go including template design in 8 hours or less. But... I've also been dealing with forum software for a long time.
I appreciate that Jman took over for John and kept the site going. I realize the work involved, and I get it when he said there was a point where he was simply checking in to make sure the forum was up and running.
But I don't think it's a horrible thing that people care enough to complain about how the site is running. I also don't see any reason to chastise those people for caring enough to want to see it fixed.
First of all, if I hadn't already before, I'd like to thank you for the work, and the financial propping up of the site. Now, appreciation aside - if you could pick, what would you want/need for the site? Donations? Assistance? Ideas? How can we help the site survive, and grow?If anyone thinks I'm administering two forums for profits, you couldn't be more wrong.
Also, I can assure you that you will NOT start a "new" website/forum that is as involved as either of these two site in 8 hours. Sure, I could log into my hosting account and press one button to install a forum, plug-in a free theme, and start spreading the word. However, if anyone has actually started a forum from the ground up (with reasonable user growth), you'll know it is not easy, nor is it cheap.
I am willing to defend any of the decisions I've made for the sites I'm responsible for. Free SSL is not universally compatible, forum software is NOT a one-time cost, we're not hosted on a free account at Host-Gator, and managing forums will be required long after you're enthusiasm for the subject has faded.
Anyway, I just don't like things being incorrectly represented... some people believe opinion they read on the internet.
I am genuinely grateful to everyone who has contributed to this community and I understand why you would be aggravated by unresolved issues. All I'm willing to say is that I was unable resolve those issues, despite the timeframe. It could happen again in the future... I don't know.
As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, social media is the cause of reduced traffic numbers on the site. There is nothing we can do to compete with the ease and simplicity of those platforms, and people don't immediately realize that the information posted there isn't organized and can't realistically be used as a reference later in time. No hard feelings, we can't force people want forums over social media.