Whelen ION's as driving lights?

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I haven't seen at night, but has anyone tried ION's in white as auxillary/driving lights?

Chief was thinking of getting a pair to place on the push bumper and a lower cost alternative than LED bars, Pioneers etc on a Westin Push bumper
 
Yeah he was thinking of short range "i.e. Deer eyeball spotters" than lightning up a football field. 

Ions were thought of as they would fit in the Westin lightguides on the push bumper
 
If interested I have a couple threads on ELB about the SNM EFLOOD 4200 that dcarrfire45 is talking about....put a pair on our HMMWV...

I think Ions wouldn't work that great, bright but no throw.  Maybe a pair of Feniex T6/T3 in white??  They would probably fit in the Westin holes.  Pretty sure FEVER still has some that have the different optics.  Or maybe a pair of Feniex Titan XTs??
 
I haven't seen at night, but has anyone tried ION's in white as auxillary/driving lights?

Chief was thinking of getting a pair to place on the push bumper and a lower cost alternative than LED bars, Pioneers etc on a Westin Push bumper

I'm not a fan of using warning lightheads as steady burn scene lights, because most of them are not designed/intended for that purpose & are not particularly bright as a flood replacement.  On the other hand, there are actual flood lights (generally with the appropriate optics, diodes, & heat sink) that will serve the illumination purpose better.

If you're looking for something that fits in an area with limited space, the SOS ghost spot light version puts out ~200 lumens for some very basic, limited lighting.  However, I'd hands down rather get a pair of SNM's e-series flood lights (their equivalents of the pioneer micro lights start at about $50 each and put out WAY more illumination than the ghost spot light)
 
I'm not a fan of using warning lightheads as steady burn scene lights, because most of them are not designed/intended for that purpose & are not particularly bright as a flood replacement.  On the other hand, there are actual flood lights (generally with the appropriate optics, diodes, & heat sink) that will serve the illumination purpose better.

If you're looking for something that fits in an area with limited space, the SOS ghost spot light version puts out ~200 lumens for some very basic, limited lighting.  However, I'd hands down rather get a pair of SNM's e-series flood lights (their equivalents of the pioneer micro lights start at about $50 each and put out WAY more illumination than the ghost spot light)

I may be mis understanding you...

but did you say the strobesnmore lights are equal to Whelens Mico Pioneers?....

there is nothing Strobesnmore sells that's even close to the pioneers.   

Please clarify?
 
They are not equivalent to the pioneer. They are just the standard imported work lights everyone sells. But then again they are also. It equal in price and much more reasonable than the pioneer
 
I may be mis understanding you...

but did you say the strobesnmore lights are equal to Whelens Mico Pioneers?....

there is nothing Strobesnmore sells that's even close to the pioneers.   

Please clarify?

I did not say they are equal to the micro pioneers.  I implied that SNM has some lights in their product line that are roughly the same ballpark size as the micro pioneers and are thus the SNM counterpart/equivalent of (closest thing in their product line to) the micro pioneers.

There is no doubt that the whelen product is a higher quality product, but the SNM $50 E-series flood lights are more than capable of doing the job here and more within the budget of most vollies.  Yes they are made overseas, as are AWL lights, but SNM and AWL products overall have pretty solid reputations here, hence why I recommended the SNM alternative to the micro pioneer
 
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Since this went a different direction (the replies) I was just looking for supplemental driving lights for the boss, that can be integrated in the Westin light channel on the push bumper. He wants a clean look, otherwise this would be easier :)
 
The Ion V throws off some good light .  i have two mounted on the lower section of my fleet rack and they light up the whole bed
 
All real driving lights or fog lights have a sharp cutoff of the upper beam spread to not "blind" oncoming drivers. Warning lights do not. This would be a real distraction, not to mention a liability issue.
 
I've used white Ions, they won't reflect on deer eyes at any useful distance (yellow will get a weak reflection). A quality LED lighting bar would be a better choice for deer avoidance, something like a Phantom Sun.
 
All real driving lights or fog lights have a sharp cutoff of the upper beam spread to not "blind" oncoming drivers. Warning lights do not. This would be a real distraction, not to mention a liability issue.

Agreed. If its not DOT approved for street use, don't use it. Same with strobes n more flood lights and micro pioneers. Those are for supplemental scene lighting. I purchased a set of rigid industries DOT approved fog lights with rigid industries fog light mounting brackets. Very bright but they have a very sharp cutoff line vertically. Any other lights will blind oncoming drivers.
 
What about Feniex Titans? Same size as an ION or T6 with a 20° optic spread. They should fit right in the Westin bar.
 
What about Feniex Titans? Same size as an ION or T6 with a 20° optic spread. They should fit right in the Westin bar.
They only make one lighthead now. It is the standard cobra lighthead. Not the "spot" version they used to have.
 
Hmm...interesting. how do you think they would do here?
 
probably better than the ion.... but I wouldn't count on two of them alone for it.
 

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